Responses+to+Other+Teams


 * Melinda 11/4 11:30 PM - Maria, Michelle and I all attended class tonight. Offered teams the following recommendations:

1. Carefully review the SOW and be certain you simply and clearly state what we will do to respond to the groups' request. This should not go to deeply into the "why" as much as the "what".

2. We may want to format our response to correspond to the teams' SOWs. I think we can do this in the editing process and not worry so much about that at this stage.

3. Keep formatting, clean, simple and professional. Be sure to check for grammar and spelling errors.

4. The leaders will be checking the class site for any posted questions from the other teams (As an FYI, I have been doing this already.) Responses to those questions will be posted there as well as the groups responses to those questions. This information may be something we want to consider as we finalize, edit, adjust our response.

Michelle and I will be working together on the development section. Accordingly, we won't have this finished tonight, but will be working on it together tomorrow evening.

Please note conference call tomorrow. - Melinda

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Michelle 11/3 1:45PM: I was able to get in touch with Melinda. Since Thursday might work for you Katie, the meeting will be Thursday :) Teleconference Meeting - This Thursday, Nov. 5, 8:30 PM ** Please call **1-218-486-2209** and enter the Participant ID when prompt.
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 * Katie 11/3 11:16 am:** Michelle- I see all 3 documents. Thanks.

Are you all having a meeting today or thursday? there is a possiblity I might be able to make the thursday one. . . .Also, I posted a summary in each section that I am working on (in the Business Google Document). Because the summary applies to all three proposals, I didn't post them in the military or education proposal Google Doc.

Michelle 11/2 6:28PM: The Military and Education response GoogleDocs have been created and added to your GoogleDocs. Please check to make sure you can see all 3 and let me know if you have any problems. Thanks.

Maria: Nov. 2, 12:02: Hi guys. Sorry I have been MIA. Real life took over (really took over!), but I'm back and will be working hard. Christina, I see you had surgery. I hope you are feeling better. @Katie, Christina, Melinda--thanks for the hard work you guys have put into these proposals already. @Michelle: I received the googledoc invite. @Melinda: The deadlines seem fine to me. I'll be available for a conference call Tuesday or Thursday evening at 8:30 (although 9pm would be a little better). @everyone: I signed up for Risks, Quality Management plan, and Conclusion in the template Katie posted. Christina, if one of those was a section you wanted/or were working on you can certainly keep doing it! (I was trying to look back through the wikiposts and see what people had already signed up for and got a little confused). I guess we are going to just do the same sections for each proposal?

 Katie- Nov 2 9:23 am Thanks Michelle- I received the invite. For simplicity purposes (and to meet our deadlines), I don’t see a reason why we can’t use the same template for the other two proposals. Yes, I would think sample screens and flowcharts would tie into the preliminary design section.

Michelle Nov. 2 8:48 AM: The googleDoc for the Business Response has been created. Please let me know if you did not receive an invitation. Will the other responses have a similar template? If so I can go ahead and create the other googleDocs so everyone can work on all of them. I'll include a title page later with our group logo etc.

Michelle Nov. 2 7:55 AM: I'll be available for the conference call on either evenings. I'll also create the GoogleDoc based on Katie's template today. I am most comfortable with creating the flowcharts and sample screens, but I guess it kind of ties in with the needs assessment and preliminary design? I think I'd like to try these sections, though I think I may be asking for some help and advice! I'll be working on the proposals and catching up with everything tonight. Hope you are feeling better Melinda!

I'm also fine with the deadline.

Katie- Nov 1 9:33 pm thanks melinda. i am fine with the deadlines posted. i will post my initial ideas as well in the template when it is posted. is someone working on a google doc for the template? sorry- i won't be available during the times for the conference call. could you fill me in after the meeting?

Melinda Nov 1 - 6:04 PM - Katie - I like your template. I think it is very workable. I have signed up for my sections in the template and will be posting my initial ideas for the section. If you haven't done so, please review the template, give feedback and sign up or indicate your preference. One thing that I included (not to be included in the submission is the copy at the bottom of the original SOW. I thought it might be helpful for a reference. In addition here is the time line I am proposing:

Business Group Response Development - Nov 1 - 4 Education Group Response Development - Nov 5 - 7 Military Group Response Development - Nov 8 - 10 Review/Enhance Proposals - Nov 11 -17 November 18 - Response Posting Due Date

The reason I am giving the shorten time line is I think we need to be begin to have some ideas to then refine. I find sometime if I give myself too much time, I will over think a project, but I am open to suggestions or feedback.

I also think it might be helpful to have a conference call. Perhaps on Tuesday or Thursday evening at 8:30 PM? Please let me know your thoughts on this. Katie and Christina - Thanks for your hard work so far. - Melinda

Katie- Nov 1 4:14 pm Hi Christina- I think the work you did is very important- I didn’t mean to imply that you were summarizing their work. I just think that it is more fitting for questions for the associated team and not in the proposal. I am not sure what everyone is working on, but I think we should at least have our remaining sections assigned a.s.a.p. I also am not sure what the others think about the template sections, so I don’t even know if everyone agrees on the template.

From Christina -Hi Katie- I do not think I regurgitated their work, most of it, as I said was redundant, over reaching, and left out critical facts and if it was important enough to be included in the initial proposal it seemed to me an important consideration because it impacted scope/ resources/ direction. At any rate, if you believe that it is not what the assignment calls for then we don't have to use it. I think the questions for other teams are still appropriate. I have no preference for the other areas, let me know what no one else wants to do and I will work on it.

Katie- Oct 31 2:55 p.m. Thanks Christina. Yes- I am up at all crazy hours- not intentionally though, it’ the only time I have without the baby J So, here is my interpretation of the Proposal Assignment: I don’t think our proposal template needs a Background/History section- The SOW already clearly stated that information (as well as the objectives). Basically, our job is to write a document (the proposal) that explains how our company intends on developing training materials for the company. The template sections that I created were based on Assignment 4’s “Proposal Requirements” and “Performance Criteria.” I don’t think the proposal should regurgitate what the client’s SOW already states and I don’t think we really need to focus too much on critiquing the company either (unless there is contradictory information that is preventing us from completing our parts). We basically need to tell them how we are going to get the job done. If we have any questions for the company, we’ll post them on their discussion thread. This is just my impression though. What does everyone think?


 * -from Christina Hi Everyone-I hope you are feeling better Melinda. Thanks for your work Katie. I see you keep the late night shift and I handle the early hours!

I have been working on the purpose background/history and objective parts of the all the other SOWs because all of our SOWS have some version of those areas. I think in many cases they overlaps and in some of there SOWS I did not find a distinct difference and upon first reading I found them to be contradictory,/ missing critical information, (especially in military) and overreaching and I just jumped right in! I would like to complete my work-and I will have it conform to your/our template. you can see a good part on the Purpose of other SOWS page. What you see are my rewritten versions -if you compare them to their versions I am pretty certain you will agree. Working on these areas has also raised questions about their project and I placed them on the same page. Let me know if this works so we can incorporate it into our work. Of course y'all can wait and we can critique later too. Thanks again.

Katie 10/30 11 PM-** Hi Melinda. Hope you are feeling better! . . I will post the template sections on the "Response- Business Group" page. From here, we can sign up for sections. I will use the Performance Criteria and the Activity 4 "Proposal" sections to create the template.


 * Melinda 10/30 8:15 PM:**

Katie - I think you are right that we need to include the Performance Criteria and if you want to start a template that will be fine. Once you have posted it, we can take a look at it and make adjustments/recommendations from there and we can start working on sections. If you can place it in the Response - Business Group page that would be great. I will also place tomorrow a proposed time line for completion on the page.

Everyone: I think we should officially state we are starting on the Business Group proposal. I should also apologize for not posting last night. I came home not feeling well, I lay down and woke up this morning when my alarm clock went off. Fortunately, I am seem to be feeling better tonight. I will be posting a copy of their SOW on the site so we can make reference. What is everyone's feelings regarding creating a Google Doc once the template has been confirmed? Those of us still not working on confirmed sections will need to do this ASAP so we can get moving.

I will be home working on class work and this project all weekend (excepting answering the door tomorrow night :-) ). If anyone once to touch base with me, please feel free to call me as well at (321) 354-5499.

- Melinda


 * katie 10/30 6:50 pm:** Hi Christina. I don’t see a section named “background” under “Proposal Requirements” for Activity 4. I'm not sure that that section applies to the proposal template. or are you just coming up with questions? Everyone: can we get a template going and take another look at what sections we want and assign each section? (please see my previous comment for reason why.) I’ll start a template if someone hasn’t already. michelle: i changed your time/date below to 10/29 instead of 10/27. i think that was copied from a previous entry.


 * Michelle 10/29 3 PM ish:** I haven't had time yet to look at the SOWs indepth yet, but what you're saying makes sense to me Katie since each SOW response might need a little more or a little less in order to answer them.

I took a second look at our proposal requirements and am wondering if we should incorporate the Performance Criteria into some of the template sections (See the “Performance Criteria” link under the “Assignment 4” section of WebCT). I think some of these criteria sections would fit under some of the sections we currently have, but I also think that some of the criteria numbers would be entirely new sections. For example, #7 reads, “ The team developed an instructional goal that was appropriate for the case”. This would be a new section in the template. I also think that we should be careful in not regurgitating what a Team’s SOW already states. We are providing the “how” in the sections of the template. Maybe we should get a template going, and then assign sections again. W hat do you all think? Maybe we don't need all the sections that Dr. A list s under "Proposal Requirements."
 * Katie 10/29 2:42 p.m** Hi everyone,

**Katie 10/29 10:29 a.m.** Hi everyone- I really don’t have a preference, but to get things moving maybe we could start with the business contract because it seems less complicated than the other SOWs. Here is my suggestion: (1) Business Group (Innovation Inc) (2) Education Group (SkyNet) (3) Military Group (Cast Falcons) Please disregard this suggestion if you already started on a timeline. . . .Christina- hope you are recovering well J  ​

 **Michelle 10/27 9:55 AM:** I don't have any preference to order. Just a quick question for my own knowledge: For the objectives section in proposals does that include goals, objectives, and enabling objectives or is that just for design documents?

Sorry I have been MIA last weekend, I was out of town on Saturday and Sunday I had a guest come to the sportsclub that I instruct at so I haven't been online all weekend.

Hope you are recovering well Christina. ^_^

Melinda 10/26 10:30 PM - Good evening. I have created a new page called Proposals Section Sign up and moved Katie's and Christina's requested sections below to that page. Maria and Michelle if you can choose your sections that would be good and I will work on any sections left after you have both selected. I have also created a Wiki page for each proposal name Response - Business Group and so on. Tomorrow I will post some timelines in each and please post here which SOW you think we should start with or post to say you are open to any of them (this is how I feel). If one doesn't rise to the top (so to speak), we can randomly choose the order. I want to have selected an order by tomorrow evening so it will give us 2 full weeks to finish the three responses. Thanks.

From Christia-I meant to say thank you to everyone earlier

Katie: 10/26 9:57 a.m Hello, Can I work on the” **deliverables**,”” **timeline**,” and” **resources, timeline, and cost**” sections for all three? This would also include the **Project Manager Reports** in the Appendices.

From christina-thanks melinda for all your efforts. I would like to work on **both purpose and background** for each - if that is okay.

Melinda 10/25 11:11 PM - Hello everyone. Katie - Thanks for your question. I think of a sample project plan as kind of a road map of steps and associated dates to ensure that tasks are getting completed and gives everyone a chance to say if they think the dates are realistic or to make additions/recommendations/changes to the steps in order to get a project completed. I just thought this would help to ensure we were all working on the responses in a way to minimize confusion.

First, I wanted to post the PDF from the course assignment. Please see the following:

Based on what everyone has posted so far, I think the following ideas may work. Please adjust or make recommendations accordingly. I want everyone to be in agreement on the process:

1. Create 3 Pages on the Wiki - 1 Per Response. Use this for information/feedback/updates on that response. If needed, please feel free to summarize or include any relevant information you feel would be needed on the page.

2. Post any questions/issues regarding the response to that SOW on the class discussion board so questions can be answered by the pertaining group.

3. From here, I this is what is sounding like a reasonable process:

1. Each choose a section of the proposal to be responsible for and members will be responsible for this section for all three - Est dates for completion - 10/26 ? 2. Confirm an order in which address the SOWs - 10/27? 3. Set up an time line for each proposal to include editing/revising - 10/27? 4. Follow the time line - As listed in the Wiki page. 5. Submit proposals on time. - Due date.

Please confirm your perspective, ideas, opinions and perhaps we can propose some time lines for the responses and perhaps put together 3 related Google docs, sign up on the Wiki for our sections so we can start working on the 1st one.

We may need to set up a conference call maybe Tuesday evening if there are a still questions/confusions. I will be happy to call you during the day Christina or to send you an email summary after the fact whichever works best if we have a conference call.

Thanks for all of your work starting to review the SOWs and getting questions ready for the teams to respond too.

Side Note: Christina - Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Maria 10/24 3:09pm Hi Katie. I think that's a good idea..posting a short summary...What does everyone else think?

Katie 10/24 2:17p.m.. . Hi Maria. do you think that any areas that are not on the same track would be idenfied in the working document (the google doc)? How would we identify these beforehand? Maybe we could still assign the sections and each of us (in the google docs) would write a brief summary of what we intend on writing in our sections. I think this might provide a good starting point and identify any areas that need further discussion or clarification. The brief summaries (or notes) would also prevent each of us from working too much in the "wrong" direction.

Maria 10/24 1:36pm Hello! That seems like a good idea Katie. The only potential problem I see with that is that people will be doing their part of the proposal but not be on the same page as everyone else answering their part...kind of like how when we all did our parts for the SOW we weren't really on the same page. Just my two cents.

Katie 10/24 11:25 a.m: hello everyone. . . I had a chance to review the SOWs and our assignment requirements. Based on my understanding, I suggest that we first assign sections of the three proposals (I am leaning toward each person could do the same sections for each of the three proposals for maximum efficiency). From there, each of us could post questions (as necessary) to the other groups on the discussion board. Melinda: In which case, would the sample project plan be necessary? I am not quite sure what that is.

Hi guys. Sorry for the response being a bit late ( I had intended to post last night), but I have been overwhelmed at work the last few days. Posting Wednesday wasn't really likely as I didn't get home after the site visit until around 9 PM. I will be putting together a sample project plan for our responses to the other teams' SOW. I am planning on having this posted by Sunday evening. Until then, please log onto the class website to preview the SOWs of the other teams and start coming up with any ideas/suggestions. Thanks and great work again on our SOW. - Melinda

from christina-Hello everyone Had surgery 2 days ago and and finally am sitting up (they said it would be twilight sleep -and I would walk out of the office-didn't wake up till 4AM sunday- willsend photos if anyone needs to see ;-(

Anyway please forgive the lateness. I think Katie's idea is most effciient. As we are familiar with the structure of the parts we worked on originally, it makes very good sense to me that we attack the project that way. Will review as Melinda suggested to preview SOWS of our classmates/and look for ideas and suggesstions.

I am still unclear...read through, thought I had figured it out but sae Gina's ques to Profeeor " Should each of us create a post about the SOW assignment or does each team just post one for the whole team?
 * **Subject:** Discussion Four || **Topic:** Problems ||
 * **Author:** Descheneaux Gina || **Date:** October 22, 2009 10:15 AM ||

Gina Reply Forward Only post the final team version. Also, only the final team version of each proposal."
 * **Subject:** Re:Discussion Four || **Topic:** Problems ||
 * **Author:** Atkinson Thomas || **Date:** October 22, 2009 5:09 PM ||

So, (forgive me if I am still medicated and dull), we are each doing a posting that corresponds to our original part /section /task to for each of the oher SOWS correct? Then we compile and post. Should we create a WIKI page for each to place work on?J

Okay, I have changed my mind after reading the other SOWs. Their components do not correspond to ours so I think summaries are the best option. I will create a summary page to put summaries on and if we decide to do something else we don't have to use it.-Christina I will call it SOW summaries